Assembly Required with Stacey Abrams
Let's face it, sometimes the world feels broken. We can see what needs fixing, yet more and more, it feels like the problems are too big and the bad guys are winning. But the truth is, they're not. They're just hoping we stop fighting.
Welcome to Assembly Required with Stacey Abrams, a new podcast from Crooked Media and Democratic changemaker Stacey Abrams. Stacey knows better than anyone that societal shifts happen when a group of ordinary people decide that a problem is solvable, and are willing to pitch in and work towards the solution.
Each week, Stacey will break down the biggest issues we face into digestible, actionable items, introduce us to the warriors for good already working towards solutions, strategize, and share tangible ways to get involved. Because we can't fix everything, everywhere, all at once; but we can each do something, somewhere, soon.
Main Cast
Stacey Abramsas Host
Episode Guide
Season 2024
- Episode 1: Down with the Electoral College, Voting Alternatives Rise Up
Aired: Aug 15, 2024In the debut episode of Assembly Required, Stacey takes on one of the most intractable problems in American politics: the unequal distribution of power created by the Electoral College. Could ranked choice voting help give all Americans a more meaningful vote? Cynthia Richie Terrell, Executive Director of RepresentWomen and co-founder of FairVote, joins Stacey to make the case.
- Episode 2: Gen Z's Fight for the Future
Aired: Aug 22, 2024This election is in the hands of Gen Z, a cohort of young Americans that's diverse, creative, and—often—skeptical. At the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, Stacey is joined by Rep. Maxwell Frost, the first member of Gen Z to be elected to Congress, and influencer Haley Lickstein, a leading voice on civic engagement among young people, to talk about how they're working to get their peers involved.
- Episode 3: Deepfakes, Lies, and How to Fight Disinformation
Aired: Aug 29, 2024Disinformation touches all of us, and more often than we think. Stacey is joined by Esosa Osa, founder of Onyx Impact, to talk about how acute the issue is and how to stop bad information from spreading—online and even in your family's group chat.
- Episode 4: Stacey Abrams Talks to NFL and WNBA Stars About Making College Sports Fair for Athletes
Aired: Sep 5, 2024College sports is a huge business. How can we make it more fair for the athletes themselves? Stacey is joined by WNBA forward Brianna Turner and former NFL defensive back Domonique Foxworth to talk about student athlete compensation, unionizing college teams, and the future of the NCAA.
- Episode 5: Stacey Abrams on the Fight for Truth in News
Aired: Sep 12, 2024Stacey is joined by journalist and author, Paola Ramos, and Washington Post TikTok host and producer, Joseph Ferguson, to explore how journalists and news organizations are meeting a dramatically altered landscape and the best way to navigate new media and the information maelstrom.
- Episode 6: Stacey Abrams on How to Fight for Lower Rent and More Affordable Housing
Aired: Sep 19, 2024If there's power in numbers, then there are arguably few groups as powerful American tenants. Stacey is joined by founding director of the KC Tenants Union, Tara Raghuveer, to highlight the vast political potential they're building through their organization in Kansas City and beyond.
- Episode 7: Levar Burton and Stacey Abrams on Book Bans and the Right to Read
Aired: Sep 26, 2024In honor of Banned Books Week,Stacey is joined by two guests: Her mom and former librarian, Reverend Carolyn Abrams, and actor, director, and literacy advocate, LeVar Burton. The trio discuss the transformative power of story and strategies to combat book banning.
- Episode 8: Stacey Abrams on the Existential Threat to Democracy and Voting Rights in the 2024 Election
Aired: Oct 3, 2024Stacey is joined by Mother Jones' national voting rights correspondent and author, Ari Berman, to untangle threats to voting rights ahead of November's election, what's changed since the last presidential election, and how to push back to protect access this year and beyond.
- Episode 9: Bryan Cranston and Stacey Abrams on How AI and Streaming is Changing Hollywood
Aired: Oct 10, 2024Stacey sits down with award-winning actor, producer and activist Bryan Cranston to talk about how the entertainment industry is evolving one year on since the writers' and actors' strikes, how Hollywood can sustain our thirst for content, as well as the livelihoods of the artists who make it.
- Episode 10: Stacey Abrams and Artist KNA on the Clash of Technology, AI & Art
Aired: Oct 17, 2024Stacey sits down with artist KNA to discuss how artists are impacted by AI and other evolving technologies, how they can use them to fuel their creativity, as well as what next steps need to be taken to secure resources and protection for the arts in an increasingly digital world.
- Episode 11: Stacey Abrams on How Your Vote Will Save Women's Lives
Aired: Oct 24, 2024Giving birth in the United States can be dangerous – but it doesn't have to be. Stacey talks to Representative Jennifer McClellan of Virginia about the disparities in maternal health outcomes in the U.S. and policies to expand access to reproductive healthcare and affordable childcare. Then, Stacey welcomes ProPublica reporter Kavitha Surana to discuss her story on the deadly impact new state abortion bans are already having on pregnant people – and the importance of sharing these stories.
- Episode 12: Stacey Abrams on Hurricanes, Heat Waves, and How Extreme Weather Changes Everything
Aired: Oct 31, 2024Stacey talks with meteorologist and veteran hurricane expert, John Morales, who describes how growing up in Puerto Rico led him to his career and how important it is to talk about extreme weather effects. He explains the science of why storms are getting stronger, heatwaves are getting hotter, and droughts are becoming more frequent. Plus they discuss how your vote can help push policy makers to mitigate climate change and the most impactful actions we need to take to help our communities.
- Episode 13: Stacey Abrams on the Power of Protest Music (with @rhiannongiddens )
Aired: Nov 8, 2024Stacey speaks with Grammy, Pulitzer, and MacArthur Genius Grant winning musician Rhiannon Giddens about the connection between politics and art. Giddens dives into the way categorization divides the music industry, the deep and multicultural history of the banjo, and how she has put her unique stamp on every genre from opera to folk music
- Episode 14: How Do We Get Through This? Stacey Abrams on Finding New Strategies for Future Elections
Aired: Nov 14, 2024Stacey speaks with historian Heather Cox Richardson to see what history can teach us about moving forward after Trump's reelection. They discuss strategies for countering disinformation, how Democratic leaders are preparing to use state's' rights to their advantage to challenge Trump's federal overreach, and how the era following Willliam McKinley's presidency can be a guide for progressives. Then, Stacey answers questions from the audience on how to get involved in politics, and how to respond to community in this post-election environment.
- Episode 15: Stacey Abrams on How We Can Fix Food Insecurity in America (with Chef Tom Colicchio)
Aired: Nov 21, 2024Stacey talks to renowned chef, activist, and Top Chef judge Tom Colicchio about why the United States has a food insecurity crisis despite being the richest country in the world — and why this issue is especially pressing with an incoming Trump administration. They discuss what can be done to address the problem head on, including what Colicchio has learned from years of advocating for school lunches and solving for food deserts on Capitol Hill. Then, Stacey answers a listener question about what the potential appointment of Robert F. Kennedy will mean for the FDA, CDC, and America's health in general.
- Episode 16: How To Take Democracy Back in Red States (with Stacey Abrams)
Aired: Dec 5, 2024Stacey talks to Rachel Sweet, who has successfully used ballot initiatives in tough states to change the rules. Most recently, she served as campaign manager for Missourians for Constitutional Freedom, the coalition that passed abortion rights via a ballot measure in Missouri during the November elections. They discuss how ballot initiatives can be a tool for positive change, even in conservative states, and how to build coalitions at the state and local level to protect and expand our rights during a second Trump administration. Then, Stacey answers a listener question about the power of leading with compassion in difficult political moments – instead of reacting with only anger.
- Episode 17: Stacey Abrams on Why Project 2025 Hates Public Education and How We Can Save It
Aired: Dec 12, 2024Stacey talks to Kate Nazemi, a local education activist and parent, and Jon Valant, director of the Brown Center on Education Policy at the Brookings Institution, about the future of public education during a second Trump Administration. They break down Project 2025's education policy prescriptions, the threats to the Department of Education, and what changes a President can and cannot make. Then, they discuss how to best get involved at the local level to make change in your community – from attending local school board meetings, to writing to your local representatives.
- Episode 18: Stacey Abrams on Fighting Project 2025's Attack on Science and Public Health
Aired: Dec 19, 2024Stacey speaks to Dr. Céline Gounder, an infectious disease specialist, epidemiologist and editor at large for public health at KFF Health News, about the threats to public health with the incoming Trump Administration. They talk through Trump's appointees for the nation's top health and science agencies like RFK Jr, how to bring scientific thinking back to policy making, and how to differentiate between public health and individual healthcare. Then Stacey explains how to make change by "power-mapping" an issue, finding out who is responsible for the problem, who has jurisdiction over it, and who is already thinking and talking about solutions.
- Episode 19: Stacey Abrams on How To Build AI That Doesn't Discriminate
Aired: Dec 26, 2024In the face of unbridled AI development and incoming President Trump's close advisors who happen to be big investors in AI, it's more important than ever to raise the alarm about areas of concern.
Season 2025
- Episode 1: Stacey Abrams on Protecting the Environment from Trump and Project 2025
Aired: Jan 9, 2025In his first term, Donald Trump pulled out of the global Paris Climate Accords and rolled back over 100 regulations impacting the safety of our air, water, and environment at large. As we prepare for Trump's second term, Stacey Abrams speaks to Tik Root, Senior Staff Writer at Grist, about what protections and milestones are most at risk, which elements of the Inflation Reduction Act have bipartisan appeal, and how much Congress and the courts could play a role in slowing Trump's fossil fuel agenda. They also discuss actionable ways that individuals can monitor their environmental safety and climate impact within their communities and homes.
- Episode 2: Stacey Abrams Explains How DEI Made America Great - and Still Can
Aired: Jan 16, 2025Diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) is being weaponized by Donald Trump and Project 2025 and right-wing activists. That's because DEI has been around since the start of the country, opening doors of opportunity for millions of Americans, correcting past wrongs, and, crucially, benefiting everyone. In this episode, Stacey Abrams speaks with Kenji Yoshino, director of NYU's Meltzer Center for Diversity, Inclusion, and Belonging and a constitutional law professor, about why we should clearly define, defend, and expand DEI. They explain who is covered, counter the misinformation about how DEI works, and advocate for DEI as a necessary tool for the future for the country.
- Episode 3: Stacey Abrams on The True Dangers of Trump's Second Term
Aired: Jan 23, 2025Donald Trump has been inaugurated for a second term as President, and the "blitzkrieg" of orders, insults and rhetoric has already begun. Stacey Abrams speaks to Melissa Murray, host of Crooked's legal podcast @strictscrutinypodcast and constitutional law professor at NYU, about how much Trump can actually do unilaterally and why his actions–like his order about TikTok–threaten the balance of power between the branches of government. They look at the true impact of using shock and chaos to govern–like his order about renaming Denali–and why we should be concerned about the new "broligarchy" that stood behind Trump at his inauguration. Stacey and Melissa explain the executive orders that run afoul of the 14th Amendment, like the end to birthright citizenship and new government policy on gender, and together, they showcase ways that we can continue to understand what's coming so we can effectively speak out.
- Episode 4: Stacey Abrams and Cory Booker on How Democrats Can Stand Up to Donald Trump
Aired: Jan 30, 2025President Donald Trump's first 100 days are well underway, implementing ruthless and legally questionable executive orders, eviscerating American political norms, and filling government positions with loyalists. This week, Stacey Abrams speaks to Senator Cory Booker of New Jersey, who speaks unabashedly about why Democrats must strive to reach more Americans, how he approaches working across the aisle on issues that matter, and what we can do to fight back and fight for all Americans. Together, Stacey and Sen. Booker give concrete suggestions on how to support elected officials and organizations doing the work that matters, how to speak up about Trump's Cabinet nominations, and how even small steps like amplifying democrats through social media can help expose more people to critical information. They also answer a listener's question about how to communicate effectively with your elected representative!
- Episode 5: Stacey Abrams Explains Trump's Mass Deportation Policy and Freeze on Foreign Aid
Aired: Feb 6, 2025Trump's immigration crackdown is in full force. Three weeks in, he's signed 10 executive orders targeting everyone from migrants attempting to cross the border to refugees seeking asylum from their war-torn countries. This week, Stacey Abrams dives deep with two expert guests. Nayna Gupta, Director of Policy at the American Immigration Council, breaks down how immigrants already in the US are being affected, the rise in ICE raids, what a humane immigration system should look like, and how to empower those at risk by knowing our rights. Then, Jeremy Konyndyk, President of Refugees International, explains why America's stance on asylum and refugees is at the core of who we are as a country and how the world sees us. He debunks viral disinformation about federal aid, discusses the importance of saving USAID and refugee resettlement programs against attack, and shines a light on how polling confirms Americans are in fact welcoming to immigrants. Together, they explain why we should harness a shared vision for our country with immigration as a vital part. Stacey also answers a listener question about how people can form citizen action groups in their local areas.
- Episode 6: Republicans Have Abandoned the American People and their Data to Elon Musk
Aired: Feb 13, 2025A league of unextraordinary gentlemen has taken over the White House. This week, Stacey breaks down how Donald Trump has allowed Elon Musk and his squad of young DOGE staffers to have unprecedented access to the federal government. Wired editor Leah Feiger joins Stacey to explain how she and her team of reporters uncovered how DOGE infiltrated the Treasury department, the potential security and privacy implications, and how AI fits into the equation. Then, Stacey sits down with University of Pennsylvania law professor and Strict Scrutiny co-host Kate Shaw to tackle the question on everyone's mind: how is any of this legal? Also, be sure to listen for a special message from Stacey on how to manage our response to crisis—so we can stay informed, cut through disinformation, and fight back.
- Episode 7: Stacey Abrams Breaks Down Donald Trump's Latest Attack on American Workers
Aired: Feb 20, 2025Another week, another Trump admin scheme to cripple the government—this time by targeting the very workers who keep it running, from food inspectors to mail carriers to those serving in our military. On today's episode, Stacey breaks down Trump's mass firing of probationary government employees and how these layoffs could soon ripple across entire sectors. Liz Shuler, president of the AFL-CIO, joins to break down who's being affected and why the blunt force tool Republicans are using in the name of efficiency, will backfire. Stacey and Liz talk about why unions matter more than ever in a shaky labor market and how we all need to stand up for workforce protections.
- Episode 8: Stacey Abrams Breaks Down Donald Trump's Cryptocurrency Corruption
Aired: Feb 27, 2025President Trump's affinity for crypto currency has emerged as another vehicle for profit and peddling influence. On today's episode, we break down the basics of crypto and how the industry infiltrated Trump's world, unpacks the ways this administration is creating a friendly environment for this unregulated market in ways that might impact our economy more broadly, and questions its ethics. Stacey is joined by Zeke Faux, investigative reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek, and Annie Lowrey, staff writer at The Atlantic, to explore the good, the bad, and the gray areas of digital currency.
- Episode 9: Stacey Abrams and Jen Psaki Decode & Debunk Trump's No Good, Very Long Address to Congress
Aired: Mar 6, 2025Trump's speech to a joint chamber of Congress was the longest in history, clocking in at nearly 100 minutes. Instead of providing viable solutions to problems like our affordability crisis or the current trade war , he used his platform to push his ongoing dangerous narrative on immigration, crime, and transgender rights. Stacey is joined by Jen Psaki, Host of MSNBC's "Inside with Jen Psaki" and the MSNBC original podcast "The Blueprint with Jen Psaki" to recap, respond, and strategize ways that Democrats, and average citizens can prepare for the additional chaos to come and push back.
- Episode 10: Stacey Abrams on How Trump and Republicans Are Abandoning America's Veterans
Aired: Mar 13, 2025Our nation's veterans are being disproportionately impacted by the Trump administration's assault on government agencies, from cuts to the VA, to job and funding reductions across the board. Not only have Republicans turned their backs on those who have dedicated themselves to serving our country, they are also doing damage to a constituency that was already underserved. Stacey is joined by Jason Kander, an Afghanistan Veteran and former Secretary of State of Missouri to talk through the needs of veterans on everything from healthcare to housing. Then Stacey speaks to Laila Ireland, a transgender Army veteran and member of SPARTA Pride, about how Trump's dehumanizing attacks on LGBTQIA+ service members degrade the effectiveness of our military and erode our core values.
- Episode 11: Trump's Attack on DEI is Weakening America's Military
Aired: Mar 20, 2025Stacey speaks to Laila Ireland, a transgender Army veteran and member of SPARTA Pride, about how Trump's dehumanizing attacks on LGBTQIA+ service members degrade the effectiveness of our military and erode our core values.
- Episode 12: Stacey Abrams on The Rise of Tyranny and Trump's Defiance of the Courts
Aired: Mar 27, 2025The Trump Administration is openly defying the courts, racking up over 100 federal lawsuits due to its tyrannical actions. Trump and his allies have continuously sidestepped and ignored federal judges issuing multiple injunctions to reign in his power. From flouting a judge's order to reverse the deportation of 250 Venezuelan immigrants without due process to unlawfully detaining and attempting to deport green card holders, this administration is pushing the boundaries of executive overreach. Stacey is joined by Skye Perryman, President and CEO of Democracy Forward, to examine the state of our legal system and break down some of Trump's most significant legal battles. Then, Stacey sits down with Mandela Barnes, President of Power to the Polls, to discuss the upcoming Wisconsin Supreme Court race—an election that could be the most pivotal of 2025.
- Episode 13: Stacey Abrams on RFK Jr, Bird Flu, and the Dismantling of American Public Health
Aired: Apr 3, 2025Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Kennedy's so-called assault on medical science is putting Americans at grave risk. Measles has resurfaced, HHS is losing tens of thousands of staff, and medical research at the National Institutes of Health is being cut. Stacey is joined by infectious disease researcher and science communicator Laurel Bristow, along with associate professor and infectious disease expert Ghady Haidar, to break down the immediate and long-term impacts of the Trump administration's dismantling of health infrastructure and skepticism of critical vaccines. They also share how we can protect ourselves and our communities from medical misinformation and disinformation.
- Episode 14: Stacey Abrams on Finding Calm in Trump's Chaos
Aired: Apr 10, 2025Whether your instinct now is fight or flight, many of us are searching for the way to navigate these turbulent times. In this episode, Stacey shares her practice of stoicism: an ancient philosophy built to make us more resilient, knowledgeable and grounded in the face of adversity. She's joined by author, entrepreneur, and host of The Daily Stoic podcast, Ryan Holiday, to explore how we can apply the art of stoicism to this political moment —and use it as a tool to build our capacity and organize action. They talk about everything from lessons from past freedom fighters to smart media consumption, as well identifying the small ways we can make a difference and regain a sense of power and stability.
- Episode 15: Stacey Abrams on How Trump's Tariffs Will Destroy The Economy
Aired: Apr 17, 2025Trump's unhinged, unpredictable global trade war is causing chaos and confusion. In just one week, the President announced tariffs on the entire world, then paused some, upped others, and announced exemptions for certain goods. This capriciousness has sparked fears that another economic recession may be looming. In this episode, Stacey is joined by Dean Baker, economist and cofounder of the Center for Economic Policy and Research to break down how tariffs affect the broader economy. Then, she hears from Beth Benike, founder of Busy Baby, and Richard R. Oswald, Vice President of the Missouri Farmers Union, about how these tariffs and the environment of uncertainty are already impacting their livelihoods.
- Episode 16: Stacey Abrams on Harvard, Columbia, and the Fight for Academic Freedom
Aired: Apr 24, 2025One of the Republican Party's most dangerous campaigns is their continued assault on academic freedom. Under the pretense of fighting antisemitism and dismantling "discriminatory" DEI policies, universities across the country are under threat of losing critical funding, and students are being targeted by immigration authorities. From Trump to state governors, attacks are coming from every level of government. In this episode, Stacey is joined by Wesleyan University President Michael Roth and Barnard College Professor Nara Milanich to discuss how our institutions of higher education are pivotal to shaping an informed, innovative, and engaged society, what's at stake, and what academics and their allies can do to push back. Then, she hears from student journalist and Co-Editor-in-Chief of The Michigan Daily, Zhane Yamin, on how students are weathering this storm.
- Episode 17: Stacey Abrams on How Trump and the GOP Broke America's Role in Global Leadership
Aired: May 1, 2025In just 100 days, Donald Trump and the Republican Party have upended the post WWII international order. From pulling out of the WHO to undermining international courts, backing away from NATO to slashing foreign aid, this generation's GOP is rapidly dismantling America's role as a global leader. In this episode, Stacey looks beyond U.S. borders and sits down with Ben Rhodes—former Deputy National Security Advisor to President Obama and co-host of @podsavetheworld —to unpack this seismic shift in world affairs… and whether there's still time to stop it from becoming permanent.
- Episode 18: Stacey Abrams and Rachel Maddow on Trump and How We Fight American Fascism
Aired: May 8, 2025In the first 100 days of the Trump Administration, we've watched Republicans erode American democracy with alarming speed. While this political moment may feel unprecedented, it isn't new. America has dealt its share of far-right movements, fascist provocateurs, and anti-democratic threats. But time and again, heroes have risen to meet those moments. In this episode, Stacey unpacks how we've fought fascism before - and won. She's joined by the host of MSNBC's The Rachel Maddow Show and author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Prequel: An American Fight Against Fascism.
- Episode 19: Stacey Abrams on How to Fight Back Against Republican Tyranny and the Trump Regime
Aired: May 15, 2025There is nothing more toxic to tyranny than those willing to fight back. Across the country, every day Americans are exercising their First Amendment rights and raising their voice in protest against this dangerous administration and the right-wing autocrats who lead it. Emerging leaders are standing up for their values and running for office in their local communities. In this episode, Stacey talks about real pathways to meet the moment with action with two leaders who walk the walk: Congresswoman Pramila Jayapal, whose grassroots training, The Resistance Lab, teaches proven strategic tools, used by civil rights leaders of the past, to mount effective resistance; and Amanda Litman, Co-Founder of Run for Something, which helps recruit and support young progressives running for elected office.
- Episode 20: Stacey Abrams on How Project 2025 Is Reshaping American Life Under Trump 2.0
Aired: May 22, 2025Project 2025 is no longer just a blueprint—it is rapidly in motion. Over the past four months, the Republicans have begun implementing its sweeping, 900+ page plan to transform America into a Christian nationalist state. We are seeing it unfold in real time: attacks on bodily autonomy, the dehumanization and targeting of immigrants, the erasure of history and DEI initiatives, and deep cuts to essential government programs. In this episode, Stacey sits down with Atlantic staff writer and author of "The Project: How Project 2025 Is Reshaping America", David A. Graham, for an in-depth conversation about the ideology behind Project 2025 and how we can prepare for what's coming next.
- Episode 21: Stacey Abrams Reveals Trump's Disturbing Vision for the American Family
Aired: Jun 5, 2025The U.S. birth rate is falling, and the Trump administration has a solution: Make. More. Babies. But instead of expanding support for families—through childcare, reproductive healthcare access, or paid leave—they're turning to policies touted by a set of right-wing members of a movement called pronatalism, which includes Christian nationalists and tech-industry eugenicists who see increasing the birth rate as an existential mission, for a select few. Today's pronatalists include figures like Elon Musk – a father of at least 14 children himself – who only want to encourage white, conservative Americans to have larger families; an idea that has terrifying implications for their vision of America. Stacey sits down with Dr. Karen Guzzo, director of the Carolina Population Center and professor of sociology at UNC Chapel Hill, and senior writer from New York Magazine Sarah Jones, to unpack the history of pronatalism, how the Trump administration is quietly aligning with it with a hollow policy agenda, and the kinds of proposals that can actually support American families.
- Episode 22: What Creators Can Teach Democrats About Winning (With Aaron Parnas and Kahlil Greene)
Aired: Jun 12, 2025Winning elections starts now, and that's only the beginning. The way we get our news has always evolved, and today we face a fractured media landscape that makes it harder to reach people consistently. The American right has often been at the forefront of navigating these waters by finding compelling messengers and putting them on new platforms that reach voters, from the rise of talk radio in the 80s to Fox News, TikTok and YouTube today. That innovation has too often led to domination of these information ecosystems, and we can see the impact in the results of the 2024 election, especially with young voters. Meanwhile, the Democratic Party is lagging behind, struggling to connect authentically with the growing number of people who get their information on social platforms. Instead of copying the right's strategies, it's time to listen to the people who actually know how to use these platforms. Stacey sits down with two standout voices shaping the future of political content online: journalist and political commentator @aaronparnas1 and Gen Z historian Kahlil Greene. They break down how they stay ahead of the curve, what makes social media truly effective for change, and why understanding people—not just platforms—is the key to being heard.
- Episode 23: Stacey Abrams Breaks Down Trump's Alarming ICE Raids and Military Escalation
Aired: Jun 19, 2025Last week, ICE stormed through Los Angeles, raiding Home Depots, warehouses, and schools in a cruel, targeted crackdown on undocumented immigrants. Those raids sparked a wave of protests as thousands of Angelenos marched through downtown, denouncing the Trump administration's unjust actions. What began as largely peaceful demonstrations escalated after Trump defied both the California governor and LA mayor by deploying the National Guard and the Marines to the city. It was a deliberate show of force and a warning to other blue states: this is what happens when you resist. But LA didn't back down. Over the weekend, Angelenos joined millions of other demonstrators in every state for the No King's protests, while Trump held an underwhelming military parade on the streets of Washington DC. It's a stark contrast in a moment when we must continue to stand up to the onslaught anti-Democratic power grabs and strongman tactics. This week, Stacey sits down with MSNBC's senior Washington correspondent and co-host of MSNBC's the Weekend, Eugene Daniels and Immigrant Defenders Law Center (IMMDEF) attorney Yliana Johansen-Méndez to help us unpack what's happening right now and prepare for what's coming next.
- Episode 24: Stacey Abrams on the Danger of Trump's Supreme Court
Aired: Jun 26, 2025Late June marks the end of the Supreme Court term—a moment when some of the most consequential decisions in American life are handed down. At stake are rulings that could reshape democracy and redefine or limit civil rights. Still pending: major cases on the future of birthright citizenship, transgender rights, the Affordable Care Act's coverage of preventive care services, and more. This week, Stacey sits down with Leah Litman, University of Michigan law professor, co-host of @strictscrutinypodcast and New York Times bestselling author of Lawless, to break down SCOTUS' latest decisions and preview what to expect in these last days — what they mean and why they matter. Then, Stacey is joined by journalist and TransLash Media founder, Imara Jones, for a deep dive into one ruling's direct impact on the transgender community, how it causes harm, why it's a proof of concept for the right, and how we fight back.
- Episode 25: Stacey Abrams on Trump Gutting America's National Parks
Aired: Jul 10, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 26: Amber Ruffin on How to Laugh In Donald Trump's Face
Aired: Jul 17, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 27: How The Epstein Scandal Hurts Donald Trump and MAGA
Aired: Jul 24, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 28: How Donald Trump is Selling America's Future to Billionaires
Aired: Jul 31, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 29: The Cancellation of Stephen Colbert and Donald Trump's Media War
Aired: Aug 7, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 30: Trump and the Rise of Christian Nationalism
Aired: Aug 14, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 31: Ezra Klein on Donald Trump, Gavin Newsom, and How Democrats Can Meet The Moment
Aired: Aug 21, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 32: Donald Trump's Escalating Attacks on Reproductive Rights
Aired: Aug 28, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 33: Ezra Klein and Stacey Abrams on How Donald Trump Has Broken American Politics Forever
Aired: Sep 4, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 34: Trump is Creating Chaos in America's Classrooms
Aired: Sep 11, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 35: Donald Trump and Republicans are Trying to Take Away Your Vote
Aired: Sep 18, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 36: How MAHA Propaganda Targets Women's Bodies and Minds
Aired: Sep 25, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 37: How to Build a Coalition Strong Enough to Defeat Trump & MAGA
Aired: Oct 2, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 38: Donald Trump and The New American Dark Age
Aired: Oct 9, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 39: Fashion as a Form of Resistance Against Trump
Aired: Oct 16, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 40: Stacey Abrams on Standing up to ICE in Donald Trump's America
Aired: Oct 23, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 41: Stacey Abrams on No Kings Day and the Power of Civil Disobedience Against Trump
Aired: Oct 30, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 42: How Gaza Holds Up a Mirror on Authoritarian Violence
Aired: Nov 6, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 43: Laughing in the Face of Donald Trump (w/ Samantha Bee)
Aired: Nov 13, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 44: Stacey Abrams on Gerrymandering, Voting Rights, and the Fight for 2026 (w/ Dan Pfeiffer)
Aired: Nov 20, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 45: Leading Activists Talk the Future of Political Organizing and How Dems Can Win in 2026
Aired: Nov 27, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 46: When MAGAs Racist Policies Decide Who Gets to Be An American (w/ Alex Wagner)
Aired: Dec 4, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 47: "Don't Be Evil": How the Mega-Rich Hijacked the American Dream
Aired: Dec 11, 2025No summary available.
- Episode 48: The Hard Truth Democrats Must Face to Win in 2026
Aired: Dec 18, 2025No summary available.
Season 2026
- Episode 1: Donald Trump's Invasion of Venezuela Sets a Dangerous Precedent
Aired: Jan 6, 2026If the first week of 2026 is any indication, President Trump and his regime has their eyes set on controlling not only the United States, but the entire western hemisphere. This week, Stacey talks about the administration's brazen move to attack Venezuela and send a special forces team in to kidnap President Nicolas Maduro and his wife. She's joined by Ricardo Zuniga, founding partner of Dinamica Americas, to talk about how the dictator came to power in Venezuela, where the opposition currently stands, and how the country's oil reserves are inextricably linked to its political fortunes. They also comb through the truths and lies of Venezuela's role in narco-trafficking, and how Trump's cabinet members and staff are leveraging foreign policy for personal and dangerous ambitions.
- Episode 2: What the Shocking Killing of Renee Good Means For the Future of America
Aired: Jan 13, 2026The killing of Renee Good by an ICE officer in Minneapolis has sparked outrage and protests, but also an outright defense of the use of state violence by the Trump administration and its allies. This week, Stacey is joined by NYU Law Professor and Strict Scrutiny host Melissa Murray to talk about the fallout from Minneapolis, the legal ways citizens can fight back against ICE, and the politicization of the Justice Department and the investigation of Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell.
- Episode 3: Why Donald Trump's Cost of Living Crisis Just Got Worse
Aired: Jan 20, 2026This week, Stacey begins by offering a response to Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins' ridiculous assertion that Americans could save money if only they limited their dinners to a piece of chicken, a piece of broccoli, and a corn tortilla. Then she speaks to Jelani Cobb, Dean of the Columbia Journalism School and Author of "Three or More Is A Riot" to talk about what historic parallels can teach us about activism in this moment. As protests grow in response to violent ICE encounters in Minnesota and other parts of the country, history offers insight into what red lines the government can and can't cross before neighbors stand up for each other.
- Episode 4: The Killing of Alex Pretti and the ICE Invasion of Minneapolis
Aired: Jan 27, 2026The unjust murder of Alex Pretti is the latest ICE killing in the city of Minneapolis. Protestors continue to flood the streets across Minnesota as the Trump administration justifies and promotes the violence of the organization. This week, Stacey is joined by @hysteriapodcast's Erin Ryan to discuss the aftermath of Pretti's death, the escalation of federal actions in Minnesota, and what Democrats need to do in response. Then, Stacey and Erin turn to the March for Life rally that took place last weekend and examine how the Trump administration's handling of abortion policy is putting it at odds with members of its own pro-life base.
- Episode 5: Is Trump's DOJ Already Tampering With the 2026 Election? (with Jon Favreau)
Aired: Feb 3, 2026Federal authorities raided Fulton County, Georgia and seized hundreds of boxes of election related materials from the 2020 cycle – including proprietary voter information that the federal government should not have access to. This week, Stacey is joined by Pod Save America's Jon Favreau to discuss the aftermath of Fulton County, the Democrats averted government shutdown, the latest polling data and how this all intersects with the continued ICE raids in Minnesota.
- Episode 6: Bad Bunny Stands Up To Trump in Defiant Super Bowl Halftime Show
Aired: Feb 10, 2026The media landscape in the US continues to undergo drastic transformations, with billionaire ownership and corporate consolidation leading to mass layoffs and content censorship. This week, Stacey is joined by Joy Reid, host of the Joy Reid Show and the first black woman to host a primetime program on cable news. They talk about the layoffs at the Washington Post, why she transitioned into independent media, what is lost when Black journalists are no longer at the table, and what people can do to inform themselves in an era where billionaires with agendas control the news.
- Episode 7: Donald Trump's Affordability Crisis Just Got Worse
Aired: Feb 17, 2026America is in an affordability crisis. Basic needs like groceries, rent, childcare, and healthcare keep getting more expensive, while wages struggle to keep up. Seventy-four percent of Americans say the economy is in poor shape, and for many Millennials and Gen Zers, the idea of owning a home is becoming laughable. Yet Donald Trump and his MAGA allies insist the economy has never been better. This week, Stacey sits down with U.S. Representative Pramila Jayapal and New York Times Business Reporter Talmon Smith to break down the growing disconnect between what Americans are feeling in their wallets and what the White House is selling from the podium. They dig into the real state of the economy, the latest jobs numbers, and whether Democrats have found a message on affordability that actually meets the moment.
- Episode 8: How To Dismantle Donald Trump's Monstrous Detention Centers
Aired: Feb 24, 2026Latinos are a growing and increasingly powerful part of America's electorate, with both parties fighting for their favor. While 48% of Latino voters chose Trump in 2024, recent polls show that many are having second thoughts. This week, Stacey is joined by Chuck Rocha, founder and president of Solidarity Strategies, and Clarissa Martinez de Castro, Vice President of the Latino Vote Initiative at Unidos US. They discuss common assumptions and misconceptions about the issues animating these voters, , how ICE and Trump's deportation policies are backfiring, and what it means for Democrats to authentically engage with diverse Latino communities on a wide variety of issues to win them back in 2026 and beyond.
- Episode 9: Why Trump's War on Iran is a Threat to Our Democracy
Aired: Mar 3, 2026This week, Stacey opens the show with the war the Trump administration launched against Iran, a complicated, deadly, and expensive undertaking that was chosen by the President without seeking congressional approval. Then, she turns her attention to the upcoming Academy Awards and examines the role the film and entertainment industry plays in America's current political and cultural moment. Stacey is joined by Sam Sanders, host of The Sam Sanders Show on KCRW, and Hunter Harris, host of the Lemme Say This podcast and author of the Hung Up column on Substack. They discuss the movies and moments with political messages this year, the way ownership will impact studio decisions in the future, and the art and performances that will stick with us for years to come.
- Episode 10: Why Donald Trump's War In Iran Is Worse Than You Think (w/ Mehdi Hasan)
Aired: Mar 10, 2026More than a week into the war with Iran, the fallout continues to grow. The Trump administration's actions have taken civilian lives, thrown the middle east into chaos, and caused oil and gas prices to spike globally. This week, Stacey speaks to Mehdi Hasan, Editor-in-chief of @zeteo about the motivations behind the war, the importance of independent media in covering the conflict, and what history can teach us about foreign policy consequences that play out over decades.
- Episode 11: Trump Risks American Lives for Attention (w/ Chris Hayes)
Aired: Mar 24, 2026While the Trump administration's war of choice with Iran continues to spread violence, confusion, and shocks for global markets, ICE's relentless campaign is extending to immigrants who were previously considered safe, like DACA recipients. This week, Stacey talks about all of the above with author, @msnow host, and host of the "Why Is This Happening" podcast, Chris Hayes. They also delve into the attention economy and how Trump capitalizes on it, the importance of local races, and ask if Democrats are truly ready to bring fresh ideas to elections.
- Episode 12: Roxane Gay on Fighting Trump's Authoritarian Push
Aired: Mar 31, 2026This week Stacey is joined for a wide-ranging interview with best-selling author and professor, Roxane Gay. They discuss the difference between non-violence and civility in fighting against ICE, the hypocrisy exposed by the Epstein Files, and what sets today's student activism apart from previous generations. Stick around to learn the importance of attending a local city council meeting, and much more.
- Episode 13: The Hidden Cost of Trump's War in Iran
Aired: Apr 7, 2026While the war with Iran rages on, President Trump has asked Congress for a $1.5 trillion Pentagon budget, offset in part by further draconian cuts to environmental programs. This week, Stacey is joined by marine biologist Dr. Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, to talk about what climate scientists and activists can still do in the face of an administration that pretends the climate crisis doesn't exist. They talk about the environmental impacts of military conflict, how race plays into climate politics, and how local action is a powerful frontier when fighting the crisis. With Earth Day and the paperback release of Johnson's book, "What If We Get It Right?" coming up, they also focus on reframing the conversation around what is possible if we continue to fight for change.
- Episode 14: How to Beat Trump? We Need to Follow Hungary's Example
Aired: Apr 14, 2026This week Stacey opens the show with a response to Viktor Orban's stunning loss in the Hungarian elections, and what we can learn from the defeat of an authoritarian in Europe. Then she speaks to Reshma Saujani, founder of Moms First, about childcare (or lack thereof) in the United States. Stacey and Reshma break down why affordability and childcare are intricately linked, the long term impacts on opportunities for women, and react to President Trump saying that the federal government "can't do daycare" because they need to fund wars.
- Episode 15: Is Government Surveillance Going Too Far?
Aired: Apr 21, 2026Do you want the government spying on you, or do you want it to catch bad guys? This week, Stacey opens the show by pointing out the false binary Americans are being presented with as Congress debates renewing Section 702 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Then she speaks to Astead Herndon, host of "America, Actually" at Vox Media. They break down how to talk about and report on America without focusing exclusively on Trump, why both parties should consider non-systems candidates in 2028, and the big realignments among groups like minority and faith-based voters.
- Episode 16: The Horrifying Truth About ICE Detention Centers
Aired: Apr 28, 2026What can international pro-democracy activists teach us about taking on authoritarianism here in the US? Stacey opens the show with reflections from the Salzburg Global Forum Democracy Resilience Conference featuring reformers from Bolivia, to Hungary, to Nepal. Then she's joined by Representative Yassamin Ansari, a freshman from Arizona and the only Iranian-American in Congress. She tells Stacey about her opposition to Trump's war with Iran, the horrific conditions she's seen firsthand when visiting ICE detention centers, and how we demand a practical response to the competing harms coming out of Washington.
- Episode 17: How We Can Stand Up To the Trump Supreme Court
Aired: May 5, 2026This week, Stacey opens the show by answering audience questions about the Supreme Court's recent ruling on the Voting Rights Act, and what it means for our democracy. Then she's joined by Jane Fonda, who explains why she's revived the Committee for the First Amendment, a group originally supported by her father in the 1940's. Stacey and Jane also talk about the Trump administration's attacks against Jimmy Kimmel, why the Warner Bros. and Paramount merger is so dangerous, and what Jane has learned after decades of activism, including her actions during the Vietnam War.
- Episode 18: Why Trump is Wiping Out Voting Rights, And How to Fight Back
Aired: May 12, 2026This week, Stacey goes beyond the headlines about the Supreme Court's recent ruling on the Voting Rights Act and outlines why this step is so dangerous - not just for minority voters around the country - but for our democracy as a whole She's joined by Lauren Groh-Wargo, CEO of Fair Fight, to discuss what people can still do at the local level and at the ballot box to save our elections and fight back against authoritarianism. Then, Stacey is joined by CNN host Abby Phillip, who talks about the importance of debate in our political culture and what current activists can learn from Jesse Jackson's legacy of fighting for equality.
- Episode 19: How Billionaire Tech CEOs Are Building Empires Using AI
Aired: May 19, 2026AI development is barreling ahead with no guardrails, leading Americans to feel anxious about what lies ahead. This week, Stacey tackles the big questions we need to ask ourselves about the technology with Katie Drummond, Global Editorial Director at Wired, and Timnit Gebru, founder and Executive Director at the Distributed AI Research Institute (DAIR). They discuss the economic uncertainty created by AI, , the motivations driving tech leaders, making sense of the flurry of information and opinions that are influencing the discourse on the issue, and whether we can imagine a more optimistic technologically-forward future.
- Episode 20: Is This the Secret to Stopping Trump?
Aired: Jun 2, 2026While the Trump administration has been busy gutting and remaking the federal government, it's critical to remember that the power in Washington was given to it by…the states. This week, Stacey is joined by Pennsylvania House Speaker Joanna McClinton and Daniel Squadron, cofounder of The States Project and author of The Fourth Branch. They talk about the biggest lessons from their own time as elected officials, the critical ways that state legislatures impact peoples' lives, share stories of their biggest victories, and argue that the states can be a powerful tool in the fight for Democracy.
- Episode 21: How Trump Is Attacking Disabled Americans
Aired: Jun 9, 2026What does disability rights and representation really look like? While the Trump administration continues to decimate access to healthcare and dismantle civil rights, disabled Americans are often among those most affected and most overlooked. More than 70 million adults in the United States live with a disability, navigating barriers that extend far beyond health care. This week, Stacey is joined by Marlene Sallo, Executive Director of the National Disability Rights Network, and disability rights advocate and motivational speaker Spencer West. They discuss the challenges facing the disability community, what many people get wrong about disability rights, and why building a more accessible and inclusive society is a social justice issue that impacts us all.
- Episode 22: The Real Reason Obama Stays Quiet in the Trump Era (w/ Melissa Murray and Erin Ryan)
Aired: Jun 23, 2026This week, guest host Melissa Murray, host of Crooked Media's Strict Scrutiny podcast is joined by Erin Ryan, co-host of Crooked Media's Hysteria. They juxtapose the Obama Presidential Center opening with Trump's UFC event celebrating his 80th birthday, and talk about the two very different visions of our country that those events (and their attendants) represent. They also touch on Trump's dismal approval ratings, the biggest takeaways from primary battles in states like New York and Georgia, the positive vibes at the World Cup, and why the right just can't move on from attacking pride month.
- Episode 23: Trump is Terrified of THIS and It's Revealing Something HUGE
Aired: Jul 7, 2026The relationship between art and politics has shaped American history for generations. From challenging those in power to inspiring social movements, artists have long played a vital role in protecting and strengthening democracy.
- Episode 24: The Real Reason Trump Is Targeting Marginalized Communities
Aired: Jul 14, 2026Why do intersectionality and Critical Race Theory matter in today's political climate? This week, Stacey sits down with civil rights advocate, Critical Race Theory scholar, and Columbia Law School professor Kimberlé Crenshaw to discuss how these frameworks help us make sense of issues ranging from the recent ICE killing in Houston, Texas, to the Trump administration's attacks on the rights of marginalized communities. They also explore how today's backlash against Critical Race Theory is tied to a broader effort to reshape American democracy, and explore how her own life shaped these groundbreaking ideas, as told in her new memoir, Backtalker: An American Memoir.